[gigatexal]

I hope that in my lifetime we see a revolution in China that overthrows the current authoritarian state and things like the great firewall and quasi-private/state run agencies go the way of the dodo bird.

Unfortunately I don't see big American companies doing anything but continuing to court China and their growing class of wealthy consumers.

[abecedarius]

Google did not. There are things I dislike about the company, but they deserve props for that.

[vthallam]

Exactly. Unlike Facebook which actively try to get into the Chinese market, Google doesn't try as much or it seems like it.

[gautamdivgi]

I have expat friends in China. I don’t think there is a perception of oppression amongst the population. If anything China has made some serious gains in the well being of its citizens. I would say the Chinese have different priorities. Calling for a revolution in a country of 1 billion people is asking for a human catastrophe.

[gigatexal]

A country that willfully removes traces of its history (tianamen(?) square) or references to law that presidents have two term maximums? Your friend sounds oblivious.

[analyst74]

yeah, let's have an revolution, or better, let's have another world war over ideology, since it went so well last time.

as much as it pains me to see China regressing on the freedom front, I hope we will sort things out in a less violent manner.

[gigatexal]

i pictured said revolution being internal -- but it'd be squashed before it began so it's only wishful thinking.

[blackrock]

Are you saying that you want to see 100 million dead Chinese people? Because that is what you are implying.

You will not have a revolution without spilling blood.

[tree_of_item]

Don't know why you're downvoted, you're 100% correct. It's really easy to call for a revolution when it's not your country thrown in to turmoil.

[gigatexal]

Freedom isn't free. Unless there's a coup and it's non-violent but remember this is one American's opinion. If the Chinese don't want this then it won't happen. But give people some freedom and they'll want to be free. Just look at the student protests in Hong Kong. Once people learn that things don't have to be run via the current way they might rise up. Or they might not, and that's ok too, since the price could be death.

[tartuffe78]

May you live in interesting times.