[userbinator]

I'm really surprised that this person is a software developer. I'm even more surprised that he still believes this stuff after working for 24 years.

I'm really surprised that you think everyone has/should have(?) the same beliefs about such things.

He then argues that Google labeling HTTP as not secure is the first step down a path which leads to "blocking the pages outright", which is a prime example of the slippery slope fallacy.

20 years ago people thought buying computers on which you can't install software some central authority didn't approve of was preposterous, and yet here we are today with walled gardens and the like. This is a rise of authoritarianism, all in the name of "security". The frog boils slowly.

[tylerhou]

> 20 years ago people thought buying computers on which you can't install software some central authority didn't approve of was preposterous, and yet here we are today with walled gardens and the like.

I can install whatever operating system and software I like on almost every single consumer-available computer today. The only prominent "walled garden" is the iPhone, which has < 15% market share. And frankly, I don't mind Apple's iOS. I certainly don't mind the fact that I know that any kernel space software that runs on my phone is cryptographically signed by a trusted party in a chain from the bootloader.

[c256]

You should look up Windows 10 S, then look up ‘locked bootloader’, and then maybe check out Google’s moves toward locking out sideloading on Android. I’m not saying the sky is falling, but there are certainly several signs of interest in that direction.