[gk1]

What marketers are you talking about? Who are "these guys"?

I work with marketers and I am one myself, and the concept of brand-building is as familiar as loops are to software developers.

No doubt you've encountered misguided individuals, but please don't generalize from specifics.

[libertine]

Anyone with a Google Adwords Certificate is a marketer these days.

> No doubt you've encountered misguided individuals, but please don't generalize from specifics.

When the community gives visibility to bad examples, specifics gain other dimension. So instead of blaming me for generalization, maybe understand the context.

I'm a marketer as well.