[agumonkey]

Try to put yourself in their shoes, to the victim it was probably a high desire, his family was probably proud, they may believe he went into heaven and were relieved. If the whole system is strong in its belief and consistent you cannot "understand" their acts as good or bad.

[humanrebar]

I believe there are objectively bad things to do and killing people for a false sacrifice is certainly bad.

It's true that people need empathy, though, partly so they can be wary despite their own good intentions and clean consciences.

[agumonkey]

You never felt the pleasure of giving your life for someone ? for a group ?

I did, very few times, but I did. I bet 10$ that their culture only amplified that feeling.

[humanrebar]

I'm confused why you think a lack of empathy on my part is the problem. Of course I can empathize with people doing horrible things with good intentions. It's all the more reason to be clear and definitive when drawing clear moral lines for everyone. So confusing feelings don't lead people to do horrible things.

We don't serve people well by simply putting ourselves in their shoes. That's certainly part of a mature response, but it's far from a complete answer.

[agumonkey]

not lack of empathy, I wouldn't dare, I mean altruistic "deathwish" might not be so common in society hence my question.