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by maratd 3043 days ago
> ever-more-powerful market forces actually undermine the foundations of social stability, wreaking havoc on tradition, religion, and robust civil associations

Is there an actual example of this? I can't think of a single one.

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Not a single one? That is unbelievable.

You could check out the article at top of this page since you’re so close.

Most TV shows or movies have numerous. Have you ever watched TV shows or...

Actually, since these things are so easy to find, I think it’s safe to assume you don’t even know where to start. We could start with your comments for inspiration.

I just copied the very first one in your profile becaue it includes a good start of what an example of this could look like.

“Start your own category, create software for it, then convince everyone that the category is important.”

This sounds like advice on how to navigate a market, which is an effort that will represent our force. There are many economic theories to explain why markets are the best environment to generate useful products. Can you imagine how your advice could lead to a product that is not useful? I can: if the category is not important but you succeed in convincing people that it is, what have we accomplished collectively? Nothing important! That is for sure.

Well, the problem about things like social stability, tradition, religion, and civil associations is they are important.

If your advice is enough to do well in a free-market economy, then that is good for you, and somebody else will do the important things. This is all fine and good assuming somebody else doesn’t fuck up.

But what if somebody else is an HN reader? And what if they come across your revalational advice, and realize they can just convince people things are important instead of doing the important things? They quit the important things.

Now there is nobody tending to important things: social stability, tradition, religion, civil associations which is a sure bet for havoc!

Easy shmeezy. It’s right under your nose if you pay any attention at all. Maybe you are an example yourself. Seems possible.

Society splitting into haves and have nots due to technology, globalization, and a myriad of other things most definitely changes social cohesion. That's just one example, when (if?)people finally start paying attention there will be many more obvious effects.
The escalating offensiveness of media due to the fact that offensive speech gets attention and therefore makes money?
Let's agree that this is happening. Is there any evidence that this is going to "undermine the foundations of social stability, wreaking havoc on tradition, religion, and robust civil associations"?

People have been saying nasty things since forever. Some even in this thread =) Is there any evidence that it is "wreaking havoc" on our social fabric?

Your lack of responses is due to your posing of the question. Answers to this necessitate length and dependencies. Many earn volumes in the theoretical canon. Go have a look. Otherwise, Q&A is a two-way street.