[the-dude]

In The Netherlands, DHL uses bikes : http://www.dhl.com/en/press/releases/releases_2014/express/d...

I absolutely hate DHL as a recipient in NL, but this is pretty cool. They have other green vehicles too ( gas, electric ).

[sschueller]

The Swiss Postal service has a similar fleet of vehicles ranging from hybrid, gas and electric.

https://www.post.ch/-/media/post/ueber-uns/medienmitteilunge...

https://www.post.ch/de/ueber-uns/unternehmen/medien/medienmi...

[jsumrall]

What do you think about the Picnic delivery trucks?

Background: I work at Picnic, an online supermarket in the Netherlands, and we have a large fleet of small electric trucks for delivering in cities and neighborhoods.

https://i.imgur.com/Howtq17.jpg

[tequila_shot]

how is gas green?

[epicureanideal]

Maybe they meant natural gas (actual gas) rather than the liquid fuel we call "gas" as short for "gasoline".

[fastbeef]

Biogas can be generated by fermenting sewage. All buses in Stockholm run on it, it burns extremely clean and is carbon-neutral since it utilizes carbon already in the present carbon cycle.

[devy]

All yeast strains produce some amount of hydrogen sulfide during fermentation as a by-product of sulfate processing. [1]

You can barely call that biogas "burns extremely clean" with hydrogen sulfide in them, can you?

[1]: https://beerandbrewing.com/off-flavor-of-the-week-sulfur/

[fastbeef]

Sorry, bad choice words. The work is not done by a yeast so perhaps it’s not technically fermenting. The work is done by a type of bacteria called archea. As far as I know the only byproduct Upon burning biogas is CO2 and water vapor.

[Spooky23]

Low emissions.

The alternative IC engine is typically diesel and spews lots of carcinogenic particles and compounds.

[the-dude]

You may have a point. It burns cleaner ( liquified natural gas ).

[zappo2938]

I rode my push bike from Portland to Cheyenne, WY. I figure I burnt 10,000 calories a day.The environmental cost of logistics of growing and shipping that many human consumable calories probably drastically out weighs that of burning gas in a car to travel that distance. Maybe someone can do the math.

[omgwtfbyobbq]

It depends on what those calories are. If you're eating inexpensive veggies/fruits/starches/grains, you're probably around 200-300mpg equivalent on a bike. If you're eating steaks, then you're probably pretty close to a car.

https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/11/mpg-of-a-human/

[Armisael16]

You're doing a lot worse than that if you're hauling mail around.

The numbers also get a lot worse once you consider the energy cost of shipping your food to you (as both your article and the person you were responding to noted).