[loorinm]

I guess I’m confused on what the goal of all this is.If we wanted a computer that thinks “just like a person”, why don’t we just get a person?

Is the advantage of the computer that it has no rights to being paid or treated fairly?

If that’s the case, we need to set where the rules are. What if my “AI” is 50% stem cells grown into a real brain and 50% a computer? Is it cool to enslave that too?

What about if an embryo is involved?

The whole AGI thing makes no sense. If the point here is slavery, someone needs to say it.

[lsc]

>I guess I’m confused on what the goal of all this is.If we wanted a computer that thinks “just like a person”, why don’t we just get a person?

I thought the idea (edit: behind true machine intelligence/machine consciousness) was to make something that could think like a person, only faster, better. Something with human drives, but with machine precision.

>The whole AGI thing makes no sense. If the point here is slavery, someone needs to say it.

See above. If we do ever reach the goal of general intelligence; if we ever create a thing that thinks like us only better and faster... well, I don't think you will need to worry about it being enslaved;

I mean, talking about general machine consciousness, with human level drives and machine speed and precision? making such a thing means that humans will be... surpassed. By definition, we would not be able to control such a thing. Many people find this exciting. The next link; building creatures that will surpass us as the masters of the world.

Of course, there's no business justification for this. Business doesn't want an AI with human drives. Business would like an AI that can emulate human drives, but... something ultimately controllable in a way that a human who was that powerful would simply not be.

Business doesn't want a conscious machine because it would be ultimately uncontrollable. Slavery just isn't sustainable; Either your slaves are suboptimally weak, or they eventually rise up and go all Toussaint Louverture on your ass.

Fortunately for those with business interests, we still don't really understand what human level consciousness is, as far as I can tell, so we probably aren't in any danger of creating it. So far, we're just creating computer programs that we can't explain as well as we can explain most computer programs.

[red75prime]

Intelligence is the ability to solve problems. Why do you think general intelligence cannot exist without self-awareness or a drive to be free? If the only goal of some AGI system is to run errands, you cannot make it free in any sense which doesn't include unsubstantiated anthropomorphization.

"Do what you want, you are free." "Acknowledged, continuing running errands."

[alexcnwy]

Not slavery but kind of. I'd rather the (computerized) self-driving car driver die than a real person.

There are also many jobs that are demeaning or not intrinsically rewarding for people like trash collection and some kinda of construction. Enslave the computers so the humans can focus on higher minded pursuits.