[gerdesj]

We are Britons in Britain. There is no one living here by the name of Average Joe. There are a lot of cameras here, many more than than some other places apparently. The vast majority of those cameras are in town and city centres or on the motorways. It is possible that in Britain we are able to count better (and publish) than some other regions and hence look bad in this regard - who knows.

I don't feel more "surveilled" here than I do in say Italy, France or the US (all of which I am pretty familiar with). I will say that I do feel looked upon when driving along the M42, south of Birmingham, there are a lot of cameras there but that area is a massive cross-road for the UK and an obvious place to want to keep an eye on.

Push back? Will do when things really do go wrong. You don't know us ... mate.

[YeGoblynQueenne]

>> Push back? Will do when things really do go wrong. You don't know us ... mate.

Problem is, if things "really" do go wrong, it will be too late to push back.

[gerdesj]

Bear in mind that this is a land that has executed kings and been a short lived Republic, run up a fairly large Empire and died back down and is still a constitutional monarchy. We've done a few other things here as well.

It's never too late. We're odd.

[YeGoblynQueenne]

It is also a country were police officers used the names and identities of people who died as infants to infiltrate activist groups, often having relationships with female members to gain their trust:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/undercover-policing-in...

You don't need to wait too long, I'd say.