[askafriend]

Yes it is. When you support Trump, you support his vile brand of leadership. The majority in this the country do not support this man or his ideas. They simply don't. The base that supported him and made this presidency possible is collapsing by all reported metrics (as in they are literally dying off, and younger people neither support Trump's ideas nor are they as religious). So while Trump's base may have squeezed out a win last time, their chances of a repeat decrease significantly as time goes on.

Time is not on their side, and I suspect History is not on their side either.

[Fins]

As disgusting and obnoxious as Trump is, there were enough perfectly good reasons to vote for him as a vote against the other major candidate.

Until people start actually voting for (a) third party, I am afraid that rather than being a last squeeze, we will be getting candidates like this more often, not less.

[lr4444lr]

When people supported Malcolm X, did they support his anti-semitism as well?

Older people almost always have disproportionately higher turnout in elections.

[askafriend]

There is leadership and then there are ideas.

It is entirely possible to support someone's form of leadership without entirely supporting all of the person's ideas.

That's why I specifically said Trump's vile brand of leadership. It's OK to agree or disagree with his ideas, but leadership is far more than having good or bad ideas. Leadership is ultimately about people and having a selfless, coherent vision for the people you represent.

[hackerman12345]

The other contender says nice words while killing people and starting wars in the background, is that really the superior moral choice?

[refurb]

Let me guess, you don't know any Trump supporters?

[askafriend]

I've lived in the east coast, the west coast, the midwest, and the south all for extended periods in my life. I've lived in so many states in this country that I know intimately the diverse viewpoints and diverse culture that exists across America.

[dang]

Please don't post unsubstantive swipes in discussions here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html