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The counterpoint to your wall of text? Trump won. He wasn't so far from even getting the popular vote.

My point is that this goes directly against the idea that people want universal health care. This was a very strong vote against any sort of help for the poor against any sort of government regulation of healthcare.

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My counterpoint to this comment is that progressive candidates will hold a majority in the Senate and possibly the House in 2018 midterms, and you will see a progressive president elected in 2020.

I agree apathy and corruption contributed heavily to a Trump presidency, but I’m confident politics will swing back over the next 3-4 years.

Trump is phenomenal for the progressive movement, far better than Clinton would’ve been. People are less apathetic now, and they will outvote conservatives (IMHO).

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I hope your prediction comes true. my point, though, was that arguing that Clinton lost because she was too conservative runs counter to the fact that someone way more conservative beat her.

Really, I think this counters the "Trump won because people are suffering economically" narrative, too. If you are suffering economically, it doesn't make sense to vote for someone who is out to tear down what safety nets we have.