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by FireBeyond 3038 days ago
And yet as an EMS responder, I've seen and heard personally of the challenges that come with it.

There are cases where shooters have been brought down by "a good guy with a gun".

There are others where there have been plenty of armed security around, even police, and it's done nothing to stop things.

And there's been cases where now you have a bunch of inconsistently trained people running around an active shooter scene, confused and terrified, possibly injuring bystanders or each other. "Hey, are you the shooter?" Shooter: "no, i'm just like you, hunting him too!" (if indeed the reaction is not "see gun, shoot").
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MollyR 3038 days ago
I'm not advocating for random people with guns, but law enforcement officers.

>There are others where there have been plenty of armed security around, even police, and it's done nothing to stop things.

Just because a small number of bad cops haven't done their job, doesn't I mean I think we get should get rid of all cops.

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FireBeyond 3038 days ago
Where did I mention getting rid of all cops?

If we went this route, I'd probably rather have the military (though I know that comes with even more 'concerns' for our 'freedom') - more tightly controlled rules of engagement, more experience with and training with respect to returning fire, compared to law enforcement, who only do active shooter exercises themselves a couple of times a year, if that.

Active shooter scenarios are terrifying, to state the obvious. I've been involved in training at a school here in Washington where even as a medic, we go in while the shooter is still active, covered by a SWAT team, for pulling victims out of the hot zone, and it is loud, it is confusing.

I appreciate that you're trying to be realistic to the culture here, and I agree that 'yes, there would most likely be civil uprising if we attempted to claw back firearm ownership', so then the only alternative is an escalating arms race.

Which the NRA, which long ago ceased to be a sportsman's club and is now "by with and for" the gun manufacture industry, can't fail to be happy about.

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