[therealdrag0]

Not sure why there's a hard-no on working overtime. Not everyone finds value or fulfillment in the same way or has the same goals.

My cousin just went from being an intern at Tesla to a FTE. This group change entailed going from 11-12 hour days to 9-10 hour days. It's crazy and maybe not for everyone but he's happy there.

I work at a more chill company, but sometimes there's something I want to do on the company code base that is not asked for by any stakeholders. I'm happy to occasionally put in an extra 10% to do something that scratches my own itch. I don't see much difference between this and someone who goes home and works in their garden or plays with Arduino or tinkers on an old car.

[AnimalMuppet]

Working overtime? It happens. I accept it as part of the job, as long as it's rare.

Working overtime to clean up other peoples' mess that nobody else cares about cleaning up? Hard no.

If it floats your boat, if it's a hobby to you, if you want to spend your free time on it, then sure, knock yourself out. Have fun. Feeling like you have to? No.

[blechinger]

I get where you're coming from. I just did this the other day (worked through the night on something for someone else over the weekend) but I may not have if I knew someone was going to come behind me and blow it away.

Maybe what I learned from it alone would be worth the effort. Tough to say.

[s73v3r_]

All that work would still be there in the morning, or on Monday. And you'd be rested up, and far less likely to make mistakes.

[s73v3r_]

If they clearly don't care, then working overtime is not going to change that, and it's just going to make things much more depressing.

This is on top of the "never work for free" rule. All that does is bring down the value and respect of our entire industry.