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by KaiserPro 3050 days ago
The Heygate estate is an interesting point. I used to live in the foursquares, a smaller equally deprived estate just to the east.

At the time of the "regeneration" (2000s) it was a toss up between a number of estates and the heygate. However because of its size and location the heygate was chosen

My estate was turned around, and I was lucky enough to live in the estate, not on it. I got to know some of the original residents(and still do).

There are two important things to note, Council housing is almost exclusively of a very high standard (bigger than new builds by ~10+ sqm) Compared to the slums described so vividly in the road to wigan pier, a paradise. (running toilets, windows, heating plaster, enough bedrooms for each kid)

Until a rule change in the late 70s, you had to have a job to be eligible for council housing. There were (and still are, more or less) residents associations that look after the running of the estate. Caretakers lived on site, towers had 24 hour concierges, and ne'dowells were evicted.

However, that was all taken away in favour of dumping problem families, outsourcing cleaning and upkeep (In some cases, one cleaner 2 hours a day costs something line £80k annually.)

In short, there is nothing wrong with the estate fabric (of the surviving estates) but how they are looked after, and who lives there. Grenfell is a shining example, a solid block that was subdivided and halfarsedly put in new gas mains.

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My estate was turned around, and I was lucky enough to live in the estate, not on it. I got to know some of the original residents(and still do).

Asking as someone mostly ignorant of estate housing: what does this distinction imply/represent?

By living _in_ the estate, I mean I turned up to the residents meetings, and participated in the governence of the estate. Council housing has been sold off, and represents a cheap, profitable rental income. Because of the high rate of change, they are socially and funtionally seperated from either leaseholders or council tenants.

When it came to regeneration/improvements, we were the one consulted, not the private renters.

If I missunderstood your question, here is some waffle:

An estate is a logical collection of dwellings, normally flats (but can be houses) that were commissioned and built by local governement for the express purpose of housing the employed working classes.

for example my estate was made up of four blocks of about 180 flats. Each block encloses a shared garden, with childrens play equipment.

as to what they look like:

https://municipaldreams.wordpress.com/2015/12/22/the-brandon...