[TeMPOraL]

> I'd turn that around: what is the point of security if the apps you download cannot do their job because of it? At the end of the day computers need to be useful, not to be burned and buried in a waste disposal field (where they'd be in their most secure state).

I'd like to phrase it as "security vs. usefulness, pick one".

Unfortunately, I don't see a good way out of this. The more secure apps and the OS gets, the less useful it is - it loses composability and interoperability, any remnants of them being mediated by third parties (basically, see how SaaS apps talk to each other, and imagine this is your desktop now). But the more useful an app or OS is, the easier it is to make users selfpwn themselves through a stupid or compromised download.

I refuse to accept that I'm not allowed to do whatever I want with my own device, including running code that does whatever it wants with other applications, and especially things the authors of those other applications didn't anticipate or want me to do. But then, I can't see how a regular person could use the same computer without fear of their passwords or data getting stolen.

Are there any smart people working on this? Do they have any suggestions?