[ck425]

Those are not good headphone. £100+ are decent if wired, £200+ for good. Add another ~£150 for equivalent quality if bluetooth.

Also adaptors frequently limit the power available from devices, greatly reducing quality on good headphones.

[Numberwang]

I don't think you can generalize 'good' like that. I only listen to podcasts and I'm very happy with these.

My datapoint of 'good' says these are 'good'

[lorenzhs]

This whole thread seems very 'No True Scotsman' and a bit snobbish to me. Labelling the entire $140 - $280 wired headphone range as 'decent' but not 'good' for wired headphones is just ridiculous. Even more so calling every pair Bluetooth headphones below $350 not-even-decent. My Sennheiser PXC 550s (which regularly go for $300 on Amazon) would like to disagree.

There's also a whole lot of outdated information in this thread, e.g. concerning the quality of Bluetooth audio. It's really come a long way.

[ck425]

The point is that good quality Bluetooth headphones are still expensive. And as someone who has invested a lot of money in good quality wired headphones I don't want reinvest even more when we have a functioning technology that already does the job extremely well.

[rorykoehler]

Sennheiser hd25 are £130...You'd be hard pressed to find better cans for any price.