[rhinoceraptor]

I think most specialty "wide" shoes are only normal wide, that is they're the correct width for people who don't have particularly wide feet.

I have a pair of Otz boots that I love, they look like Timberlands but have a really nice wide toe box, and a zero drop vibram lugged sole. And of course, they don't make them any more. I would have bought 3 or 4 pairs if I knew that to last me a while.

It's even worse with bike shoes, and I don't even have wide feet. I just want a pair of mountain bike shoes that don't make my toes hurt.

[frabbit]

The widest fit bike shoes I have been able to find currently are Sidi Dominator 4s. And they are not wide enough. I had an old pair of Lake M-somethingorother that I got from Performance before they closed. They were actually comfortable. In general the MTB stuff is where its at.