[coralreef]

But the experiments are also tainted, ie. undisclosed steroid supplements or other enhancers.

[hnzix]

Not all bodybuilders juice. I experiment with my diet and regime all the time. Intermittent Fasting & Keto at the moment, and lots of protein.

[coralreef]

Never said all do, but some do, so its hard to isolate factors, the data becomes low quality.