[sgillen]

I agree with the idea that an overide because the car has been stopped for too long is less dangerous than a more active sort of overide. But I think it still is a safety issue.

I’m mostly thinking of when we take the human out of the equation completely, if the car is stopped indefinitely that is going to cause all sorts of problems. If it’s blocking a city street you’re creating traffic as well as potentially slowing down first responders. Being stopped on a highway is very much a safety hazard.

Even with a human driver to take control there are places where coming to a stop would be a very bad thing (an on or off ramp for example).

[asynchronous13]

> if the car is stopped indefinitely that is going to cause all sorts of problems.

Your comment is true, but consider the context. There was a vehicle already blocking the lane that caused the autonomous car to stop. The autonomous car did not block an unobstructed lane, the lane was already blocked.

[khc]

I've seen Cruise's cars braking for no reason, including once at the intersection (there's nothing in front of the car)

I couldn't tell if it figured out it's safe to proceed on its own or if someone took over. It's also possible that the human drivers were doing the braking but if that's the case they clearly need better safety drivers

[BRAlNlAC]

i watched a Cruise driver sit through multiple opportunities to make a left against traffic, until the light turned red and the traffic clear out complentely, basically wasting the green light. It was rather infuriating to watch, i joked to my girlfriend who also watched that we are all screwed if the Valley cant get its act together to hire really top notch drivers to train driverless cars. We dont need the roads full driverless cars who dont know there own power.