[ux4]

I agree. I was recently in the market for a car and I think the best bang for your buck would be a certified pre-owned Honda, 3-5 years old, less than 50k mileage, and last year of its body style. A CPO 2015 Honda Civic with ~35k miles could be had for $11-14k in California. 31/41MPG, cheap to repair, extremely reliable.

[samfisher83]

I think toyota beats honda in quality. If you go here:

https://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Accord/ you can see that when you compare cars with similar sales volume like the accord and camry at least the last 5 or 6 years toyota has won.

We studied the Toyota quality system in my business classes. They put a lot of emphasis on quality. They use the teachings of Edward Demings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming).