[jamra]

I’ve used React in the past and I believe what you’re mentioning is very React specific.

Angular has lazy and eager loading, which reduces bundle sizes. It also doesn’t require so many frameworks to manage manually. They are still there, but they are sort of imported automatically by angular cli so it doesn’t take a lot of mental overhead.

Some issues I had, though, were with bugs in newer versions. Some of those issues stopped development outright.

Another issue I have on one team is the fallacious notion that the front end programmer will take over the front end so no one else will need to think about it. Business specific logic seems to be out of reach for my particular developers, which prolongs the development cycle.

The benefit of state management and inter component communication have to be balanced the the practicality of who is doing the work and if those people can take ownership of all associated areas touched by the SPA.

[swyx]

is there a way for React to do eager loading? i asked around on twitter but got told "thats not React's job".

[throwaway284534]

Loading of modules can be managed by Webpack's chunk configuration. Each import declaration can be turned into a promise that executes your code when all dependencies are fetched.

[connorelsea]

I think the react dev team is currently working on an official async loading pattern for a future update. But currently webpack, rollup, etc. offer dynamic import, code-splitting, tree-shaking

[shados]

Not sure if that's what you mean, but when Andrew Clark keeps mentioning the "async" word, he means async rendering, not async loading.

[connorelsea]

What is an unsolved async loading problem in React you are experiencing?

[shados]

I don't have any issues with async loading. I'm just saying that I believe what you are referring to when you say the React team is working on an official async pattern is not actually async loading, but async rendering.

At least every time one of their members said the word async in the last couple of weeks/months, it's what they referred to, and it's a completely different (and unrelated) thing. I can't read your mind though, so I'm just guessing.