[KirinDave]

So wait, engineering has no value, progress should only come from research departments at big corporations, we should never engage in anything outside of product and ad work, and anyone who applies research is stealing time from their employers.

Maybe, just maybe, we're starting to demand more of career software engineers. Maybe, just maybe, it's time for folks to stop grousing about how value-driven they are and realize that bad engineering is more expensive than good engineering over even medium term timescales.