[athrun]

Well, the point of the GDPR is to make you aware that collecting personal data of EU citizens requires their explicit consent. Just ask me for it, that's not a big deal, is it?

If you don't, you're effectively stealing from me and I shall expect my government to go after you to the full extent of the law.

[ysv2]

What makes you imagine your government has any jurisdiction over me?

EU citizens can choose to use services offered under other countries' laws, or not. The EU can choose to implement their own Great Firewall to block such services, or not. Frankly I don't care either way.

[athrun]

Uh? This is already how the world works. It does not matter where you are located as long are you are transacting with EU citizens.

In extreme cases of non-compliance, avenues for enforcement that have been discussed reuse existing Anti Money Laundering mechanisms: once flagged in the system, banks will simply freeze your business assets connected to EU countries and you might be arrested upon crossing any EU border.

[ysv2]

I have no business assets connected to any EU countries, and I don't have any desire to cross any EU borders. So I will continue to enjoy life in my home country and ignore your provincial laws.

[kbart]

So why are you so nervous? Just ban all those 500 millions "provincial" users and feel free to ignore GPDR. It's nothing new that countries extend protection for their citizens and business entities well beyond its borders, for example, US routinely extradites foreign citizens that have nothing to do with USA for DMCA violations, hacking and whatnot.

[ysv2]

Nervous? Not at all. My point is, it isn't my responsibility to ban them or take any other action on my end. That's a problem to be resolved between the EU's governments and its citizens.

[akie]

> provincial

... because laws that enable mass-surveillance are somehow worldly?

[chrisper]

>What makes you imagine your government has any jurisdiction over me?

It doesn't. But once you enter Europe expect to be in trouble (if there is anything going on against you). Also forget to do business in Europe (with EU citizens).

So if you don't care about these, then you don't have to care about this law.

[ysv2]

Right, hypothetically if I were to physically enter the EU I could expect trouble, and that's the EU's right. But in the meanwhile, if EU citizens wanted to do business with me, that's not my problem.

I basically agree with your assessment.

[chmars]

That is actually not correct, consent is one of several options (and usually not the best option because there are strict requirements for a valid consent).