[thinkloop]

This must be an old topic for hn'ers, new to me, but this is incredible, we keep complaining about how stifling software patents are, why hasn't there been an explosion of innovation in Europe simply by having this benefit (has there been?)? Are there studies and comparisons of what has come of this policy?

[haasn]

Well, one question we could ask is why basically every single popular open source multimedia project (FFmpeg, x264, MPC-HC/madVR, mpv, avisynth/VapourSynth, MVtools/SVP, heck even LAME, .....) is made mostly by european authors? Some projects are almost 100% european, some are partially european with some russian and other non-american countries thrown in.

The only projects I can actually think of that are based in the US and made by american authors are those by xiph.org, and they only get away with it because their entire business model is developing royalty free alternatives to MPEG codecs.

Even if multimedia patents might not affect big corporations much, they definitely seem to strongly affect the open source community. I imagine if we had similar dystopian laws here in the EU, our best and most beloved multimedia software would plain not exist.

[thinkloop]

I wonder why compression seems to be extra sensitive to the existence patents. What about all other fields, aren't there ripe opportunities for European companies to be able to build software that Americans simply can't compete against? Shouldn't there be a cottage industry that does exactly that? What are some of the most stifling non-media patents?

[pluma]

While software patents impact every company's long-term survivability, short-term survivability for startups strongly hinges on investors. European investors are more risk averse and investments in Europe tend to be smaller than in the US. American investors prefer to invest in US companies for obvious reasons.

So a good portion of the startups you're imagining die early due to a lack of investment or incorporate in the US at some point in order to have a better chance of finding investors. And then some of the rest simply aren't as growth-focused because they need to focus on short-term profitability to survive, which means they'll likely end up silently dominating a particular industry niche rather than making a big entrance on the global stage.

Software patents are only a problem if you can survive long enough to be sued. If you're not exceptionally unlucky, you're more likely to go bankrupt before that happens.

[djsumdog]

Software patents are also banned in New Zealand.