[zolthrowaway]

Vote with your wallet. That's really the only thing that you can do. Intel is too comfortable in their position as market leader. Until they start to feel some pressure, they have shown they don't really care. I know AMD is not a perfect company either, but I elected to buy a Ryzen processor for my upcoming build. People need to at least consider the competition without defaulting to "I need a processor, I buy the latest Intel chip."

Yes, I know that most people don't build new PCs or upgrade their processors that regularly. Yes, I know that many people don't have much of a choice because they have some requirement that currently ties them to Intel. However, those that do have that choice, should remember this debacle the next time they are buying a CPU/system (even if they are not doing it for awhile). Intel is hoping they can sweep this under the rug, we can't let them until they make amends. Do not buy an Intel chip until they've proven they will do better. I am not endorsing AMD either. You can still vote with your wallet by not buying anything at all. If enough people put off their upgrade, it would put a dent in Intel's bottom line. Things won't change until it hurts them financially.

[_asummers]

I understand your point, and agree with the spirit of it, but a few consumers buying Ryzen chips isn't going to make one bit of difference. A couple data centers buying dozens of racks of them, however, would be more measurable. Hit em in the B2B not the B2C.

[zolthrowaway]

I agree with you, and you are right. However, most people aren't making decisions about what types of chips to use in a data center. It would be wonderful if the people in those positions explored non-Intel options. For the average consumer, all we can do is choose which company we buy a CPU from every few years. People buying Ryzen chips incentivizes AMD to keep making chips and stay in the market. Competition is good for consumers. I totally get that it is a lot more complex than that, but I personally feel like it's the best we can do as the average consumer.

[_asummers]

For sure. Like I said, I agree with the spirit, and you can obviously only do things within your own sphere of influence. I'm also planning on doing a Ryzen build for my next PC. I'm just trying to be realistic to say that even thousands of consumers switching won't make a huge dent in their bottom line. B2B is really the only way to influence a company as large as Intel, unfortunately.

[zolthrowaway]

You're definitely right. I'm just feeling idealistic this morning :). I hope you enjoy your build and it goes well. I'm getting my 1600 this week.

[epicide]

Yep, nobody gets fired for picking Intel, so to speak.