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by JorgeGT 3076 days ago
Not an oceanic scientist but sound speed in water is ~1500m/s. This is the speed at which a pressure perturbation propagates. The speed at which the actual tsunami wave would propagate is much more slower than this. So I believe that the excitation marked in the plot is the pressure wave caused by the earthquake, which travels orders of magnitude faster than an actual water wave caused by the earth displacement.
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But that doesn't fit the data, either. The buoys all report something around the 9:45ish GMT mark. And 1500m/s would mean you reach Mendocino bay in California only about now or so. But have a look at the plot:

https://archive.fo/KsN8b

That's true. Maybe when a buoy registers an "event", an "snapshot" of more fine-grained 15-sec data is recorded from all DART buoys?

Edit. From this page: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/dart/dart.shtml

> The system has two data reporting modes, standard and event. The system operates routinely in standard mode, in which four spot values (of the 15-s data) at 15-minute intervals of the estimated sea surface height are reported at scheduled transmission times. When the internal detection software (Mofjeld) identifies an event, the system ceases standard mode reporting and begins event mode transmissions. In event mode, 15-second values are transmitted during the initial few minutes, followed by 1-minute averages. Event mode messages also contain the time of the initial occurrence of the event. The system returns to standard transmission after 4 hours of 1-minute real-time transmissions if no further events are detected.

The algorithm is described here: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/dart/algorithm.shtml

I see, thanks. But that rather sounds like the buoy itself is switching modes?

From the look of all the plots, even the far-away ones, it rather looks to me like they have been remotely switched into event mode (with that 15s stuff being plotted at about the same time)?

I guess I am really confused about the time stamps.

Based on this page, linked by someone just above, it sounds like they do have 2-way comms (Iridium) and can remotely be put into 'Event Mode'.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/dart/dart.shtml

I think it's a combo of noise when that was activated (see the page above, describes exactly what it reports when it goes into that mode, etc) -- and then for the one that shows a substantial sea level rise, it's likely just the pressure since it's all pressure-based sea-level measurement "estimates". Guess I kind of thought it measured actual rise/fall of the buoy, or maybe used GPS or something, but makes a bit more sense that it's solely based on sea-floor pressure.