[icebraining]

The end node could still sniff your traffic presumably.

The same is true on a VPN. Tor is no different, except it adds extra layers for anonymization.

[ce4]

It's been shown more than once that this does happen frequently.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mgbdwv/badonion-h...

https://www.wired.com/2007/11/swedish-researc/

[icebraining]

Yes - my point is that the VPN is itself an exit node too.

[jopsen]

you trust the VPN... TOR exit nodes should be considered adversaries trying to spy on you. They probably are :)

[icebraining]

Ah, "trust the VPN". Sounds naive :) at least the Tor exit node can't directly match my traffic with my payment information.