[throwwwwaway9]

>>"Obviously most of us would think that the lawyer should just do what's in the best interest of the client in the view of the lawyer."

I doubt the lawyer has his client's interests in mind all the time: A new trial with more money coming up, media exposure, "25 years is jail isn't that bad, could've been life," "if we wrap it up by Tuesday, I can still make for Jeff's birthday party" etc etc. Lawyers are human and representing clients is a business. The most important period in your life is just another trial to him.

Bottom line: Unless the lawyer is willing to do his client's time, he should be overruled by the person that really stands to lose, the client.

[Balgair]

If you see that happening, contact your local Bar Association. Example: https://www.sfbar.org/about/contact.aspx

[throwwwwaway9]

It's not like he's gonna send you a certified letter stating those things. Especially public defenders that have another 100 cases having to attend to...it's math, x total hours a week and lots clients mean accept that freaking plea. Or lawyers that just found out that they will not get paid properly.

[dragonwriter]

You don't need a certified letter to file a bar complaint. Or even to get yet another lawyer and succeed in a malpractice suit, though the latter (unlike the former) may require some money up front.

[throwwwwaway9]

anyone can complain, but what will you achieve.

Let's rate representation from 0-100, with 0 or a negative being a drunk lawyer, sleeping through the trial, and 100 being the dream team, 10+ lawyers with unlimited funds.

What if your lawyer rates a 15 (scale 0-100) and simply says that that's what I really believed, given the evidence and resources avail ? Who is going to disbar /blame him when he recounts the challenges he faced?

[dragonwriter]

> What if your lawyer rates a 15 (scale 0-100) and simply says that that's what I really believed, given the evidence and resources available

> Who is going to disbar /blame him when he recounts the challenges he faced?

The disciplinary commission of the State Bar, who will be reviewing the information provided, and will be composed aren't 15s.

And, quite possibly, a court hearing a malpractice claim and applying the professional standard of care.

[Balgair]

I mean, any lawyer less than 70 WILL be disbarred in nearly any city larger than 1,000. Yeah, there are speed trap towns in Nevada and Alabama where this isn't happening. But 99.99% of Americans have at least a C- worth of representation.

[Balgair]

PDs are overworked, true, but they do care deeply about the people and the job. It's not too hard to go get a much easier position with a JD. Most, if not all, PDs are there because they care (the loan forgiveness helps, but is not really worth it)