[cr1895]

>you can't do "5 minutes of bycicling" when you have 2 toddlers.

I just want to say: come visit the Netherlands sometime. It will surprise you.

(granted, the cycling infra is far superior than most other places in the world)

[lhorie]

Ah, yeah, I've heard wonders about it. Would love to come visit. But yeah, you're right. When I was in Toronto, cycling from my apartment to work was just a 15 min ride, but it's definitely not something I would've felt safe doing w/ kids on the bike.