[BHSPitMonkey]

> Yes. Game copiers enable users to illegally copy video game software onto floppy disks, writeable compact disks or the hard drive of a personal computer.

Source that says copying bits from my own retail game disc to my own hard disk is a crime, please?

> They enable the user to make, play and distribute illegal copies of video game software which violates Nintendo's copyrights and trademarks.

If I make a copy of a DVD and place it on my shelf beside the original, which laws/copyrights/trademarks have I infringed upon? Redistribution may well be an issue in most jurisdictions, but we weren't talking about that.

[khedoros1]

> Source that says copying bits from my own retail game disc to my own hard disk is a crime, please?

That's Nintendo's claim, not mine ;-) You'll have to ask them.

> If I make a copy of a DVD and place it on my shelf beside the original, which laws/copyrights/trademarks have I infringed upon? Redistribution may well be an issue in most jurisdictions, but we weren't talking about that.

In the specific case of DVDs, and in the specific case of my jurisdiction (I live in the US), I think that the argument would be that you circumvented the DRM of the Content Scrambling System, in violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. In other jurisdictions, you'd have no problem. In the UK, for example, my understanding is that there's no restriction against breaking DRM, and that creating a copy of a copyrighted work for personal use is perfectly legal.

[DanBC]

> If I make a copy of a DVD and place it on my shelf beside the original, which laws/copyrights/trademarks have I infringed upon?

Which country are we talking about? There's something about "circumvention of technical prevention measures" which is part of WIPO and so in many laws. It's in the DMCA and in the European laws. Some of these contain exceptions for backups, but not all of them.

[detaro]

The parent isn't arguing that these things are true. Just providing quotes of things Nintendo says.