[ParamModule]

Perl isn't dead so much as it's primarily only used in production by older sys admins but it still has a community that loves it, VB.NET is alive and well in Microsoft shops and among noob malware authors.

My definition of fucking dead is smalltalk. But this is coming from a guy who's favorite pls are erlang, SML/NJ, and Ocaml lol.

[overloadrix]

> My definition of fucking dead is smalltalk

A curious definition. Not only Smalltalk is still used (e.g. in fintech), but it's intelectual virtues are always revisited and rediscovered by new generations who, invariably, try to come up with a "modern" version of it, or something inspired by it.

[marvy]

Like Ruby!

[rurban]

Like ruby? AFAIK nothing new ever came out of ruby. It was just a nice pure implementation of smalltalk on top of Perl. Of course the everything is a method strategy and unoptimized MOP burned them.

Just look at their new jit. Can anybody think of a worse strategy to implement a jit? There are serious technical and management problems. V Makarov at least wrote the register machine before the naive cc -> so jit, but then the Japanese came and even ripped that out.