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by masterleep 3085 days ago
The FB feed has been terrible since it changed from a chronological list. Doubt this will improve anything.
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Unless you have a small number of FB contacts (AKA “friends”) chrono is probably rapidly overwhelmed. I wanted chrono too, but it’s just too much.

OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it. That can be true in the HN firehouse too though sometimes you can dredge it out of your browser history. Good luck trying that w/FB

My gf works on this at FB (don’t know if she works on this particular change) and she says her group talks every day about the difficulty of finding stuff. I don’t know if those discussions are part of her work or it’s just they have the same problems. I just know that when I gripe about any UX issues or the shittiness of their app she just sighs and says, “yeah, we know”

> OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it.

Try 2 seconds ago. Open facebook, browse, start to close facebook, see something interesting, but it's too late the tab is closing, oh well, re-open facebook, too bad it's gone forever you'll never see it again.

Worse yet, if you use the Facebook app to follow a link someone posted and leave it open for awhile, when you then hit the back button to close the browser and return to your feed, the post containing the link will no longer be on your screen, or even easy to find. Makes it near impossible to comment on it, re-share it, etc.
OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it

Forgive my ignorance, don’t have a FB account, but there’s no “search the feed” functionality? That crazy, WTH is the point if something blips by and I have no way to find it again? Something something monetization, but it seems like that would be a major oversight.

But silly me, I’m probably making the mistake of looking at it from the user’s perspective.

It worked fine for me when it was chronological previously - albeit, I was using it differently.

In fact, I would say its harder to find stuff nowadays because if you close the page and then come back and the algorithm has weighted something off the page, you can't find it again.

Back in the day, I used to use it like a messageboard essentially, communicating at peak times with my group of friends.

If there was a post I was communicating on earlier, notifications let me know it was still happening, or I could go onto the page of the person who wrote the status.

Nowadays, its more like a blog of the popular stuff and I see the same people dominating my feed and the same posts appear for long periods - which is one of the reasons I go onto it very rarely nowadays.

That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's not what I enjoyed about it back when I actually used it regularly.

Your list of friends that you should be keeping up with should be small.
For what it's worth, HN's search feature is killer and has never let me down.
Is this sarcasm, or are you referring to Algolia?
It’s not! I just use the search bar on the bottom of HN. I can always find what I’m looking for.
I never even knew that was there!
First it was an option to still use the chronological list. Then the option was only temporary. Then they buried the option under Feeds > Most Recent. Sometimes it's even hidden and you have to hit "See More..." and scroll down. Even then it's only temporary until you re-open the app. A dark pattern for sure.
If you have Pages which you really like, you can emphasize them with See First as the press release notes:

> Can people still see posts from the Pages they follow at the top of News Feed?

> Yes. People who want to see more posts from Pages they follow can choose See First in News Feed Preferences to make sure they always see posts from their favorite Pages

> The FB feed has been terrible since it changed from a chronological list

Isn’t there still an option to rank chronologically? It just isn’t the default. In any case, the news feed has been a quantitative success in terms of engagement metrics.

I don't think it's stictly honest about showing all posts chronologically--it still hides many that it decides aren't worth your time, time that can be better spent viewing ads. Even then, the choice to view it chronologically expires every 2 days or so, and you're back to the default.
I recall there was a most recent option and a top stories option. It seems the feed often got reset to top stories so you had to pay attention.
Same with Instagram, it's a major reason why I no longer use the service.
It will "maximize eyeballs", which is the desired result for them.
I thought the goal was to maximize the dopamine releasing Likes.

Edit: to hook people on FB to increase eye ball time (which translates to more ad exposure as well as improving individual profiling and ad targeting)