[Retric]

My sister works for Disney and I am polite about, but I still place Disney on the same tier as Backwater(Academi) in terms of evil.

If you are an Animator I get it they treat you well and it's a small industry. However, objectively they cause an immense amount of direct and indirect harm.

[dahart]

My feelings about Cory aren't because he insulted Disney, I already knew how he felt about Disney. My feelings are personal. He insulted me without knowing anything about me. He assumed that I was colluding rather than working to fix anything from the inside. He was rude to me personally before I said a word to him. He insulted me while I was holding a copy of his book that I had just paid for, while I was spending my own time waiting in line to get the chance to talk to him. How ungrateful and unprofessional can someone get?

He is selling his writing. I do wonder how hard he'd stick to his copyright guns if nobody ever paid him for his ideas, and everybody copied them instead.

I have all my own reasons to not trust Disney, BTW, above and beyond their historical copyright violations or whatever. They shut down our research group on a whim during a management turnover because they couldn't see in Excel whether it was profitable. They closed the game studio I was working at on very little notice after making a billion dollars on the product we created, after years of overtime. I had left already and was unaffected, but a couple hundred people were suddenly trying to figure out how to feed their families.

That said, they also paid me relatively well, and I fed my family and worked on some fun projects. My family and extended family and friends all enjoyed free trips to Disneyland. As a parent, I do appreciate being able to trust Disney content around my kids.

Given that they are a global economic engine that supports millions of people, I can have my beefs, but it's hard to say that it's all bad. "Evil" is a black and white narrative that, ironically, is the kind of thinking that Disney has encouraged. These companies are made of people, almost all of whom are good and just trying to get by.

All large corporations are doing things that are not in the public interest. Calling out specific ones and claiming they're much worse than others is to misunderstand our economic system. Capitalism is the root cause of the immense amount of direct and indrect harm, at the same time it's the cause of an immense amount of wealth and economic stability.

In any case, even if some companies are bad, it's lame to be rude to strangers face to face.

[Retric]

> trust Disney content around my kids.

Ehh, I really don't trust their content and consider it actively harmful see my other comment.

> fix anything from the inside

I have wondered about this, there are some really dark themes around cannibalism in the lion king just under the surface. Most animals talk, we still eat them. But, I think the whitewashing is still rather pervasive relative to the source material.

> "Evil" is a black and white narrative

'evil scale' is a useful shorthand for harm outside of simply outcomes aka an earthquake is harmful but not evil. However, simply referring to it as a continuum means it's not simply a black and white scale.

[mch82]

For what reasons?

[Retric]

Sidestepping issue of copyright and corporate greed which is the usual HN complaint.

Disney promotes a harmful world view and perpetuates unreasonable expectations. It hooks into the same sort of cognitive dissonance that religions do, but by targeting young people it can propagate views without the need to be consistent with the real world. Now personally I elevate that harm because they are specificity targeting children.

Try reading the original Peter pan / Alice in wonderland etc etc and consider what about these stories are changed and for what reasons.

PS: It's also rather insidious, look at what older generations thought of childhood and compare it to today. If you dig into things like divorce rates it's not really specifically their fault, but myth really does inform people about human nature and prepare them for dealing with other people.

[Buldak]

>Disney promotes a harmful world view

What worldview is that?

[Retric]

> what about these stories are changed

That's the worldview I am talking about. I am not going to try and simplify it to fit into a single comment.