[dbbk]

I mostly use Ember and have been working with React recently. I'm kinda baffled that it's as popular as it is. Nothing works out of the box, it's an exercise in frustration trying to get an SSR app with asynchronous-data-loaded containers working. This all just works out of the box with Ember.

I can't help but feel like it's only useful as a low-level primitive that is still lacking a "full stack" framework on top. Even Create React App, which is an official project for this purpose, falls way short of what apps need in 2018.

[chrisco255]

This works out of the box with Next.js (a React-based framework), which is published by Zeit, and has SSR, lazy loading, file structure based routing, etc all set up for you.