[addicted]

So what you are saying is Tesla's public announcements and investor statements should not be taken as realistic?

That almost sounds illegal.

[erikpukinskis]

At this point, everyone who is paying attention knows Tesla’s estimates are optimistic, including Elon Musk.

And no, there’s nothing illegal about being bad at estimating.

[nickik]

Compare Tesla to others and not their own targets and its clear.

[mcguire]

Tesla has a market cap larger than Ford's, but is currently struggling to produce two orders of magnitude fewer vehicles.

How long does the market need to wait?