[aceofspad4s]

Racism does not have to be about "the inferiority of another race". Racism can be "I don't think it's good for the economy that so many people from outside are coming" or "this culture is completely incompatible with ours and I don't want these people here". It's a pretty lax word. By outlawing "racism" you're outlawing discourse.

[mithr]

This is not true; as in, racism has a clear dictionary definition as "Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

(Source: Oxford English Dictionary https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racism)

[gehwartzen]

How is "race" defined?

[blattimwind]

Volksverhetzung is juristically exhaustively defined and none of your "racism can be" statements fulfill that definition.

Volksverhetzung is not about "inciting hatred", which does not convey the concept. This article also isn't about Volksverhetzung, it's about the NetzDG, a new law.

[zeeZ]

What you're describing sounds like xenophobia to me, not racism.

[everdev]

Anti-Immigration != Racism

Saying you don't want immigration isn't racist if it applies to more than just immigration from certain racial groups.

However, her tweet was not about that. She called out Muslims as having certain behaviors which is clearly racist.

[kofejnik]

the left are constantly calling out Christians for certain behaviors, is this racist?

[everdev]

If you try to define all Christians as X, you're probably mistaken.

If it's a negative definition designed to insult then it's probably discrimination.

The whole point of being anti racism, anti religious discrimination etc., is that race and religion are not good qualifiers for making assumptions or decisions.

[nailer]

The parent asked you if disliking Christianity was racist, not if it was religious discrimination. Please answer them.

If, say PEW Research asks a statistically significant portion of people who identify themselves one way, and a large amount of them self declare they have awful views, is reporting this bad because it's 'negative'?

[everdev]

No, it's perfectly fine to have an opinion about an ideology, like: "I don't believe in the Bible/Christianity, etc.". A statement like that only makes a judgement about yourself which is of course your right.

If you dislike something, there's usually a fear underneath that. People who dislike Christianity on a deeper level are probably afraid that if everyone was Christian X would happen. Sometimes that's realistic, sometimes it's not, but expressing your fear is OK and usually helps people understand you better than if you simply say "I don't like X type of people".

When you switch your focus to a group of human beings and say "I don't believe Christians are...", you're judging others. When we judge others we're probably bias in some way because none of us have enough accurate information to uniformly judge the millions of unique people that identify with a race or religion.

Just saying "I" first doesn't mean you can then say whatever you want. If the target of your judgements is a person or group of people, you're probably not being honest with yourself about what you're uncomfortable with and projecting your fears onto a group of people. That's typically what racism is about.

Instead, it's usually more accurate to express your fears about a particular non-human target (like a law, behavior, etc.) and leave people out of it.

[nailer]

Addressing some weird off topic bits:

- Not believing in the bible is different from saying Christianity is harmful.

- I agree it sounds harsh to say one dislikes Scientologists or Muslims or Stuffed crust pizza lovers. However that doesn't address the fact that you implied doing one of these was racist, when none of these are races and all are beliefs.

And responding to the point you made:

> When we judge others we're probably bias in some way because none of us have enough accurate information to uniformly judge the millions of unique people that identify with a race or religion.

Many seperate, independent groups have surveyed significant portions of Muslims across the world and found consistent and disturbing results.

Do we mean every individual person? No, to measure things we need to paint broad brush strokes.

- No sensible adult would think that a group has a hive mind.

- Nearly all would (and should) be concerned if most members of a group wanted to make being gay illegal (amongst other issues).

[nailer]

I dislike stuffed crust pizzas, which are also not a race, but I imagine everdev considers that racist too.

[everdev]

You can hate whatever pizza you want

[nailer]

Wouldn't that be racist against people who like stuffed crust pizza?

(Correcting self as you mentioned later)

[nailer]

Wouldn't that be racist against stuffed crust pizza?

Why one idea and not the other? Are we allowed to dislike Christianity? Scientology? Libertarianism? Socialism? Capitalism? Cutting off dogs tails? If so, what makes Islam non dislikeable?

Are you aware of the many ex Muslims and the harassment they receive? The people who've criticised Islam and been killed for it? Do you think declaring Islam non dislikeable helps this?

Do you know anyone who is an ex black person or ex white person or ex asian? Why not?

[everdev]

When you focus on certain groups you're probably missing the point.

There are Christian parents who have banned their child from returning home when they renounced religion.

And there are many Muslims who accept people after they renounce Islam.

Instead, probably better to say: When people harass someone who doesn't agree with them, I feel afraid for that person's safety. That's not racist and still honors your fear.

To just focus on Muslims doing this shows a bias and lumps many innocent people into a stereotype.

[nailer]

> She called out Muslims as having certain behaviors which is clearly racist.

No. Islam is not a race.

[coffee9]

If it's not in your self-interest what's the problem? They're certainly not immigrating for your benefit.

[worstscenario]

"Racism" is not outlawed, racial injury and hate crimes are.