[ThomPete]

Besides there living like 10x the amount of people than in the US and besides Canada actually has a very strict immigration politics compared to the US then sure.

I was responding to the "American Dream" by the OP. You find any other country where immigrants are running many of the countries most successful companies and where you have so much opportunity to establish a company in a great market. I am not talking about how fast you can set up an LLC or a C-Corp I am talking about how big your opportunity to create something in the US is no matter who you are and where you are from compared to other places.

The US is far ahead.

The tough people were the ones who endured what it meant to live in the US in the beginning. There weren't tough when they went on a boat but they soon became just as their children and their children.

[LV-426]

> I am talking about how big your opportunity to create something in the US is no matter who you are and where you are from compared to other places.

What does this even mean?

Please give a specific, concrete explanation of how and why it's easier for someone to "create something" (create what?) in the USA than in the EU or Canada.

> Canada actually has a very strict immigration politics compared to the US then sure.

And yet apparently accepts around three times as many new immigrants per year than the USA, as a percentage of population.

> The tough people were the ones who endured what it meant to live in the US in the beginning. There weren't tough when they went on a boat but they soon became just as their children and their children.

So is the USA the land of opportunity or the land of greater hardship and toughness?

People don't typically leave the country they know and love for another land, unless enduring hardship already. OTOH, while they may believe (at least in part due to propaganda[1]) another land will provide greater opportunity, that doesn't mean it does.

[1] The UK government notoriously considered an ad campaign a few years back about how bad life was in the UK, to deter immigration.

[ThomPete]

It means that if you come to the US from more or less any country you can get started working and building up a good business and end up on the top in fact you are expected to. There is no social welfare system for you. You go to Europe and you point to how many places that happens.

In the US almost half of all Fortune 500 companies are founded by foreigners. Let me know where that happens in Europe.

And yet apparently accepts around three times as many new immigrants per year than the USA, as a percentage of population.

But a fraction of what the US have of illegal immigrants (approx 100K vs. 11mio). Furthermore the IRS and Immigration actually doesn't communicate about illegal immigrants because of the US Privacy Act which means you can actually pay taxes even though you are here illegally.

The US is many times more flexible for anyone who wants to stay here.

But don't take my word for it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/business/international/fo...

Even the fact that Dreamers are even discussed shows how different the US is form Europe.

So is the USA the land of opportunity or the land of greater hardship and toughness?

What part is it you don't understand?

The US is the land of opportunity, the US sentiment isn't like the european where equality is a goal in itself because of the US history and how it was founded.

With regards to your [1] Denmark did that, it helped but what does that have to do with anything?

11mio illegal immigrants in the US plus all the legal immigration and add to that the last 200 years and it's pretty obvious that the US is based on very very different principles than EU.