[nvahalik]

> Orgies are fine. I've never been to one and have no desire to go to one. The real issue here is the power-asymmetry between the men and women involved.

If orgies are fine then why aren’t they part of mainstream culture? They aren’t part of the mainstream culture because orgies themselves are opposed to the things that are part of a working society: sacrifice, honor, wisdom, and self control.

Thank God that our society isn’t like this or we’d all be dead.

[Retra]

Most people on this planet believe death will be an improvement for them, yet they manage to survive just the same. Seems like our innate will to live clearly will outweigh whatever virtues you find lacking...