[allover]

For things like auth/signup/forgotten-password flow I'd agree I've been more productive with server-side frameworks than client-side, and the out-of-the-box solutions for those things from Rails/Django feel more solid.

Also basic blog and structured content 'pages' sites.

For building anything that requires complex client-side interaction, i.e. the sort of things that even warrant looking at React (e.g. a calendar app, or a music player app), then you're going to get yourself in a real mess attempting that with 'javascript sprinkles'.

> Also, Redux as "self-congratulatory" had me dead. XD

Also completely wrong if you've ever read/heard anything Dan Abramov has ever written/said [1].

[1] https://medium.com/@dan_abramov/you-might-not-need-redux-be4...

[bruncun]

I believe Abramov was the first to say, “You might not need Redux.” What prompted that?

[allover]

Yes! Perfect example, added to my comment :)