[cycrutchfield]

So you're saying that because we do not hear about corruption in state-controlled media in countries like China and Russia, but we do hear about corruption in countries like the US or France, is evidence that Western corruption is more rampant than elsewhere?

[TeMPOraL]

I'm saying that nowhere in this thread there is proof suggesting that Western corruption is meaningfully smaller, and not just different in phenotype but functionally still in the same ballpark as Chinese corruption.

[cycrutchfield]

I appreciate the equivalency, but that is markedly untrue by any objective measure.