[goldenkey]

No, the West can but we don't kid ourselves by thinking that the means to the end won't be inhumane and violent. Just like the 1 child policy. There's ways to accomplish things gracefully, and they tend not to be explicit .. they tend to be encouraging the alternatives, finding underlying causes, and promoting those. To cause subtle percolating change. China's way for change is reminiscent of when they killed all the insects and then caused starvation of millions. Brute force solutions are not the answer. And neither are brute-force black-line cutoffs. Initatives. Not cutoffs. Freedom with encouragement of positive behavior. Not forced behavior.

[whooshee]

Yes, like soft-segregate people by their how much money they have. Having slums that policemen are afraid to go in. That's very graceful.

[hktrl]

Are you talking about the suburb areas in US or Europe?