[bbatha]

While I'm certain all sorts of shenanigans come out in divorce proceedings,

> (indeed, in one state where I looked at the statistics in depth, as a man, you have a 12% chance of engaging in domestic violence, and a >25% chance of being accused of it).

This statistic is not sufficient evidence to draw the conclusion that women make up domestic abuse charges with regularity. Its far more likely that women are more likely to divorce their spouse if they are abusive.

[nailer]

Do you genuinely believe domestic violence is an issue in more than 25% of marriages that end in divorce?

[bbatha]

Yes. What the statistic we're seeing here is that women who divorce their spouse are twice as likely to victims of domestic abuse. Is that really a stretch?

[AnimalMuppet]

Because as the marriage goes bad, the man is more likely to start becoming abusive. Because if the man is abusive, the marriage is more likely to go bad. Both are very likely true.

Note well: I am not saying that every divorce is because of abuse. I am not saying that every man in a bad marriage will become an abuser.

[nailer]

Yes. I don't believe 12% of relationships involve domestic violence either.