[chrisseaton]

> The issue is not creating waste, but wasting one's money on middle-men for replacing one's phone batteries.

Well I could say I'm spending that money on having a nicer phone that's sealed and seamless, rather than wasting it.

[jhiska]

Sealed, seamless, performance-degraded, costly to service, with planned obsolescence.

It's quite obvious that it's a waste of money to pay middle-men to perform basic service on it for stuff a user can do at home with any other phone.

[chrisseaton]

Right... but the point was I get something, in return for having to pay middle-men to service it. It's a trade I'm happy with. Maybe you aren't, but it works for me.

[jhiska]

You can go to a store and ask someone there to replace the batteries of your TV remote or battery-swappable phone for free, if you like.

[chrisseaton]

You're just being sarcastic for the sake of it and not really contributing anything to the discussion.

[abiox]

it seemed to me you were saying that your received benefit in exchange for not being able to change the battery... was that you now had to pay someone else to do it. which is a bit odd.

i would wager that their post was trying to highlight that.

[chrisseaton]

> it seemed to me you were saying that your received benefit in exchange for not being able to change the battery... was that you now had to pay someone else to do it. which is a bit odd.

That would be odd! Which is why that's not what I said.

I said that the received benefit in return for having to pay for the batter to be replaced was 'a nicer phone'. I like the single form of the iPhone.