[uoaei]

Authoritarians hiding as collectivists has given a bad name to the latter, but let's be sure to not conflate or causally link the two.

[benjohnson]

How can you have state-wide collectivism without authoritarian control?

There's always going to be a few people who want to be independent - and you can only squish that at the point of a gun.

[_m8fo]

This is a great question -- I think the jury is still out on this one. Someone will eventually figure out the right set of incentives, in the right quantities, targeted to the right groups that'll make it work, though.