[fortythirteen]

> The same thing is happening in the US.

Apologist nonsense. Have any of your neighbors been sent to reeducation camps?

Statements like this minimize the plight of these people.

Are authorities overstepping the bounds of the fourth amendment? Yes, and we should continue to fight them every step of the way. But we are still the country with the highest level of individual liberty in the whole world.

[floatboth]

Wasn't New Zealand the country with the highest level of liberty?

Also, yeah, no reeducation camps, but cops getting away with murder all the time…

[adventured]

> Also, yeah, no reeducation camps, but cops getting away with murder all the time

You mean like how the Chinese State has executed 50,000 to 60,000 people since 2000? Have you read about how those crimes are applied to the people being executed? Typically there is an unsolved batch of crimes, they tag random people with them at will, then execute the supposed criminals by the hundreds to wipe away all the unsolved crimes. It wasn't more than a dozen years ago that China was still executing people as a public sport in stadiums, where you could go and watch the state executions.

The US still has capital punishment in some states of course, it executes about two dozen people per year by contrast.

The law enforcement systems in the US deserve a lot of criticism. Cops killing people in the US is a serious problem. The scale of it however simply does not compare to abuses that go on in China. For example, China still tortures thousands of homosexual people each year, attempting to force-change their sexuality with things like electroshock and drugs.

[mac01021]

> Typically there is an unsolved batch of crimes, they tag random people with them at will, then execute the supposed criminals by the hundreds to wipe away all the unsolved crimes. It wasn't more than a dozen years ago that China was still executing people as a public sport in stadiums, where you could go and watch the state executions.

Citation? This seems like a phenomenon that I should know more about.

[floren]

> Typically there is an unsolved batch of crimes, they tag random people with them at will, then execute the supposed criminals by the hundreds to wipe away all the unsolved crimes.

Sometimes it's just that a high-ranking Party official needs a new liver...

[OisinMoran]

Do you have a good source for levels of individual liberty by country? Would be pretty cool to see how some places stack up