[mastazi]

> Rails is awesome but people hate Ruby

Is this sentiment common? It might be just my personal echo chamber but I've often heard the opposite stance, i.e. people saying they hate Rails because of all the "magic" but at the same time they like Ruby as a language because of its flexibility.

[busterarm]

The Ruby job market outside of Rails is tiny, unfortunately. Most folks never bothered to look. DevOps and InfoSec folks tend to know better -- Chef, Puppet, Capistrano, Vagrant, Logstash, Metasploit, Homebrew, Sass... all written in Ruby)

All of my ETL pipelines are built in Ruby and I wouldn't have it another way. From a development, support and deployment persective, Jekyll is hands-down the best "web framework" I've ever worked with. If you need to build websites that don't need sessions/accounts, there isn't a better tool. NGINX's SSI module fills in some (tiny) gaps.

Ruby's a great language with a healthy set of tools. It's just not popular among people making CRUD apps right now.

To most folks though, unless they're already Ruby developers (AND not a Rails shop), Ruby and Rails might as well be the same thing.

[flowardnut]

we use Sinatra and sequel for a few apps and it's great (and puma to run it all)

we have switched to python for our FaaS but only because of lack of Ruby support from AWS lambda.