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by user5994461 3103 days ago
Software engineers cannot be self taught, at least not in any of the countries where engineer means something.
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Lower "e" engineer. In Canada, like many places, the title is protected. But in reality, it's not often necessary for software. A significant number of the roboticists where I work do not have an engineering degree.
If the title is protected, it's not possible to be an engineer without having the degree.

Anyway, the author was posting google requirements. More than 80% of google developers have a master or more.

My point is that it's possible to effectively be one without. It's not like people without the degree can't do all the things an engineer does. It just becomes troublesome when there's safety certifications and such required.

There's definitely value, meaning, and importance in the engineering degree and certifications.

Uh, that's not true at all - most Googlers don't have a masters. Do you have a source?
I can't find the source again.

Instead, here some numbers showing that 76% of ALL Google employees have a degree. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/28/this-tech-company-has-the-mo...

The saying that one doesn't need a degree to get a tech job is nonsense. Do the test: Ask one guy working in one of the major tech company how many of his direct neighbors have a degree, most likely it's all of them.

> 76% of ALL Google employees have a degree.

> The saying that one doesn't need a degree to get a tech job is nonsense.

These statements directly contradict. 24% of ALL Google employees don't have a degree.

> Ask one guy working in one of the major tech company how many of his direct neighbors have a degree

I know that I was hired into my current role without having a CS degree at the time [1}, based solely on my open-source portfolio.

[1] I now have a BSc in CS because I work part-time and attended university in parallel.

The statements don't contradict. Read the source, the other 24% are marked as "unknown" status, not as not having a degree.

Furthermore, that's the statistics for the whole company. It's higher for tech jobs. It's higher for younger folks. It's higher in countries where degrees are affordable.