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I was concerned for a minute. Then I remembered that this is the browser vendor that constantly spouts it's privacy bonafides yet on a monthly basis "partners" with companies like Pocket to install unwanted addons and functionality and has Google Analytics on their settings pages.

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Firefox bought Pocket. And they had negotiated with Google to remove tracking on that page. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14753546

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The acquisition was two years after the integration. The referenced comment says nothing about tracking being removed, only referencing a "special deal" whatever that means.

You are trying to muddy the waters here. Even if I were to accept your (wrong) explanations, they still don't jive with the image Mozilla is trying to project.

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Mozilla went through a year long legal discussion with GA before we would ever implement it on our websites. GA had to provide how and what they stored and we would only sign a contract with them if they allowed Mozilla to opt-out of Google using the data for mining and 3rd parties. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697436#c14 https://bug697436.bmoattachments.org/attachment.cgi?id=73207...

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That's novel, going to so much effort to use a tracking service while proclaiming you are not tracking!

Sounds like taking a shower without getting wet. I see you silently dropped the Pocket thing, then?

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Staying bitter for two years is one thing, but it took me a few minutes to refresh actual details about what happened. The initial integration raised privacy concerns but mainly by being unclear. Since then things have steadily improved, like Pocket updating their privacy policy. https://venturebeat.com/2015/06/09/mozilla-responds-to-firef... There was a long discussion on the Mozilla Governance board that clarified a lot of things, including the legal department affirming that users were not automatically bound by Pocket's ToS. https://lwn.net/Articles/650869/ And eventually they bought Pocket. So while Mozilla isn't perfect, privacy is a real priority for them, and when they do mess up, they put a lot of time and effort into mitigation.

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I don't think there is a basis for discussion here if you can't acknowledge that the mere installation of 3rd party addons & use of GA is a breach of trust.