[scurvy]

I used to defend Sonic as a scrappy startup fighting the good fight for good people. But seriously, it's tiring and old. They needed to raise money to roll out fiber to more than 25 people in the sticks. They didn't and I think a large part of it I was Dane didn't want to give up control in return for capital. OK, that's his choice, but I'm no longer going to laud Sonic. It's basically a cute toy if you're lucky, not a real company.

[freetime2]

I think building out FTTH networks, and doing so profitably, is harder than you give it credit for. Look at all of the issues that Google and Verizon have run into - and they have all of the resources in the world at their disposal.

[scurvy]

VZ had nothing to gain from rolling it out, so they stopped. They put all their eggs in the net neutrality/complain that the network is congested basket.

Google might have some smart developers, but they know very little about rolling out a full ISP with fiber plant. Their webpass acquisition showed that. This is another case of Google's hubris tripping them up and landing smack on their face.

Real companies and organizations with good operations can roll out an all fiber ISP. It's not like it's never been done before. Your two counter examples were due to greed and incompetence.