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by theBobMcCormick 5793 days ago
The no cell data while in a call is a CDMA issue, not a phone issue. An ATT or Tmobile Android phone can use voice and 3G data at the same time the same as an iPhone.

Also, I'm not sure how the no cloud push in 2.1 can be a reason for switching from Android to iPhone. Does the iPhone have a cloud push feature equivalent to the one Android 2.2 cloud push feature? I'm assuming that's the "no cloud push" feature he's talking about, since many Android apps have push messaging for email, IM's, etc. (I've had push Exchange mail since at least Android 2.1, IM's have always been push-instant, etc.)
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matwood 5793 days ago
I'm not sure if it's equivalent, but setting up the iPhone to treat your Gmail account as an Exchange Active Sync account gives the iPhone most of the cloud push features (Mail/Calendar/Contacts). I can add a contact on my iPhone that syncs OTA to Google that then syncs to my mac address book.

Google voice texting and messages don't integrate perfectly yet, for example if I get a GV text on my iPhone and read it it doesn't show read in GV on the web (unless of course I use the GV app/html5 site to read it). Also contact groups do not sync from Google Contacts.

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ben1040 5793 days ago
I'm not sure if it's equivalent, but setting up the iPhone to treat your Gmail account as an Exchange Active Sync account gives the iPhone most of the cloud push features (Mail/Calendar/Contacts). I can add a contact on my iPhone that syncs OTA to Google that then syncs to my mac address book.

The contact/calendar syncing is great and in my mind really makes MobileMe a hard thing to justify buying. The push mail is nice as well, but I found the limitations to be a little annoying (but not enough to keep me from using it on my iPad):

http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&...

Specifically, deleting a message from your inbox is the equivalent of pressing the "Archive" button in the Gmail webapp.

If you drink Google's kool-aid about never deleting mails, that's great, but I don't. As a workaround I created a tag called "0-To Delete" (so it showed up at the top of the folder list when alphabetized) and rather than delete mails, I apply that tag. Gmail tags the message and removes it from the inbox, and then at some point later on I can actually delete all the mails with that tag.

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Sidnicious 5793 days ago
This is easy to fix.

Check the account's Advanced settings, and make sure that the account's Deleted Mailbox points at the "On the Server" trash. You may also want to confirm that the Sent and Drafts mailboxes point to their Gmail equivalents.

You can archive a message by moving it to the All Mail folder.

In iOS 4, there's an option at the top level settings of accounts created as "Gmail" accounts to archive or trash messages deleted on the device, I'm not sure how this relates to the above settings.

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ben1040 5793 days ago
Check the account's Advanced settings, and make sure that the account's Deleted Mailbox points at the "On the Server" trash. You may also want to confirm that the Sent and Drafts mailboxes point to their Gmail equivalents.

If you're using the Google Sync feature (to get your mail, contacts, and calendars pushed live to your device), Google presents your Gmail account as though it were an Exchange account. Consequently, iOS doesn't let you change the folder mappings like you can with an IMAP server.

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Sidnicious 5792 days ago
Good point.

I work around it by setting up the Google Sync account on the device without mail and adding it as an IMAP account as well.

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vetinari 5793 days ago
> I'm not sure if it's equivalent, but setting up the iPhone to treat your Gmail account as an Exchange Active Sync account gives the iPhone most of the cloud push features (Mail/Calendar/Contacts). I can add a contact on my iPhone that syncs OTA to Google that then syncs to my mac address book.

No, this is not equivalent to cloud push. Application-specific push (in this case google sync) was part of Andoid 1.0 on the first G1.

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Andys 5793 days ago
> The no cell data while in a call is a CDMA issue, not a phone issue.

Yes, I have successfully browsed the web in the middle of a call, using 3G(HSPA) on my G1.

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