[IMTDb]

"Being able to use a tool" does not mean that it's the best choice for you. People here are saying that these new "Pro" computers are actually really bad choices for Professional, mainly because of the lack of modularity and high price.

If you feel offended by those comment, that's on you, no one is actually judging you.

[Retric]

Most corporate computers are never upgraded. In part because computers are just not nearly as expensive as people seem to think.

So, modularity is useful just not not as important as people assume. Computers are also not getting faster as quickly so using the same computer for ~4 years is now completely reasonable. Spread out of that period these start at ~80$ a month. You might drop that price some, but not as much as you probably assume without sacrificing.

They might not be optimal, but it's a reasonable option.

[freehunter]

I disagree. The idea that a Macbook Pro does "not... meet the requirements of people that are actually professionals" inherently says "if you're a professional, you don't use a Mac", and inversely, "if you use a Mac, you're not a professional". There is no reason to make that statement unless you are looking to strictly define who is and who is not considered a professional in your opinion, and that definition most certainly leaves a lot of people out in the cold.

Now it might be a true statement that "if you're a professional video editor working with lots of files and 4k video, the Mac Pro doesn't meet your needs" or "if you're a professional data scientist working on cutting-edge machine learning with CUDA, the Mac Pro doesn't meet your needs".

But "professional" is a broad term. Very broad. It's hard to imagine a broader term. Even if we restricted that to "IT professional" or "professional programmer", it's still a very broad range of needs within that statement. And the Mac Pro lacks a very specific set of things that "professionals" may need, depending on their profession.

I'm willing to bet the number of professionals who need a Unix machine with a nice GUI that's well-supported by major software vendors and also well-supported by the manufacturer with retail stores (including tech support) in every city of any size far outweighs the number of professionals who need anything specific the Macbook Pro or Mac Pro are missing. Why, then, are they not considered "professionals"? And what other machine meets those very broadly applicable requirements?

Or how about this one? I need a Unix machine with a serial port and an Ethernet port for my job, and I also need the machine to be lightweight because I travel constantly, it needs to be able to be held with one hand as I'm standing in a datacenter, and I need long battery life because I can't carry a ton of cables through the datacenter as I'm moving around. What meets my needs as a professional? Sure, my needs are very specific... so are the needs of this hypothetical gold standard "professional" who needs what the Mac Pro doesn't have. I certainly don't need a powerful video card. Guess I'm not a professional, then?

It's the constant gatekeeping of "Mac(book) Pro computers aren't made for professionals because I made up my own definition of professional and you're not in it" that really grinds me the wrong way. I don't need to upgrade my RAM because by the time I need more, my work will just buy me a new one. Guess that means I'm not a professional?

[nullpage]

Sorry I didn't intend it to be a gatekeeping thing or trying to define who isn't or is a professional. I apologize it was poorly worded.

I think a diagram better explains what I'm trying to say.

What I feel like Apple's target audience was in the past with their 'Pro' lines:

https://imgur.com/a/ydLdE

What I feel like Apple's target audience is now with their 'Pro' lines:

https://imgur.com/a/dGI9R

It still meets the requirements of a lot of professionals, and a lot of professionals are still going to use them. I'm not trying to say 'whether or not you are a professional is directly related to whether or not you use a macbook pro'. It is just that apple seems to be slowly targeting their "pro" lines more towards the consumer who like pro stuff side to capture more of that market than they are trying to move toward the professional side to capture more of that market. Instead of getting more ports and longer battery life at the sacrifice of weight, we get things like the touchbar and ever thinner machines that have trouble living upto the battery expectations. For a bunch of professionals that doesn't matter, it isn't what makes a macbook pro fit their requirements. But there seems to be a very vocal segment of professionals who sit on that left most edge concerned that what apple calls 'pro' is moving further away from meeting their requirements than closer.

Edit: it might be more clear to say the green circle is people who find a macbook pro to meet their requirements.